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Adam Moss reads, May 2024
In Adam Moss’s "The Work of Art," the former editor of New York magazine asks “What is the work of art?” Weaving conversations with some of the most accomplished artists of our time together with the journal entries, napkin doodles, and sketches that were their tools, Moss traces the tortuous paths and artist decisions that led to the making of transcendent novels, paintings, movies, songs, jokes, and more. Organized and hosted by author and UCLA professor Mona Simpson.
Copresented by the UCLA Department of English.
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Directors and curators discuss "Radical Women"
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"Radical Women" directors Isabel De Luca and Isabel Nascimento Silva are joined by "Radical Women: Latin American Art, 1960-1985" co-curator Cecilia Fajardo-Hill in this post-screening Q&A. In 2017 the Hammer presented the work of 120 women artists and collectives active in Latin America and the United States during a key period in Latin American history and the development of contemporary art ...
Directors and film participants discuss "War Game"
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Post-screening Q&A with directors Jesse Moss & Tony Gerber and film participants former Governor of Montana Steve Bullock, US Senator Heidi Heitkamp, Major General (ret.) Linda Singh, former Deputy Chief of Staff at the Department of Homeland Security Elizabeth Neumann, CEO of Vet Voice Foundation Janessa Goldbeck, founder of Fascination Lab Benjamin Radd, and moderated by UCLA professor and le...
Intersections: Armenian Classical Composers
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Copresented by the UCLA Herb Alpert School of Music Celebrate the rich and diverse intersections of Armenian musical heritage with exquisite performances of works by Armenian classical composers in Western and Ottoman music traditions. The concert features an exciting lineup of musicians including Antranig Kzirian, known for his innovative style of oud interpretation, and the UCLA VEM Ensemble ...
Symposium: An Encounter with the Korean Avant-Garde
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Presented in collaboration with GYOPO, an L.A.-based collective of Korean cultural producers and art professionals, this program features dialogues with artists and thinkers on the historical, political, and cultural contexts of the Hammer's exhibition Only the Young: Experimental Art in Korea, 1960s-1970s, with focus on the lasting impacts of this decisive moment within Korea’s local and diasp...
Artist Talk: Rebecca Morris
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Los Angeles-based painter Rebecca Morris makes large-scale paintings demonstrating a rigorous commitment to abstraction. Over her thirty-year career, Morris has explored fundamental elements of artmaking-brush marks, grids, surfaces-to make a singular body of work. Since 1994, Morris has been the subject of more than 25 solo exhibitions and has been included in over 145 group exhibitions at mus...
Creating Impact: Artist Legacies in the 21st Century
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Artist foundations are historically rooted in the stewardship of an artist’s own works, but more and more artists are choosing inventive approaches to make a greater impact. Moderator James Bewley, Senior Program Officer at the Andy Warhol Foundation for the Visual Arts, examines these models with Yona Backer, Director of Third Streaming which oversees the Alvin Baltrop Trust, Anthony Huberman,...
Trans Hirstory in 99 Objects
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The book Trans Hirstory in 99 Objects is a project of artist Chris E. Vargas's Museum of Trans Hirstory & Art (MOTHA), a conceptual art project that is "forever under construction." Exploring trans art, activism, artifacts, and resistance across more than four centuries, Trans Hirstory in 99 Objects does away with the patriarchy and instead charts a gender-neutral, trans-centric hirstory of art...
Maureen McLane reads, March 2024
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Maureen McLane, poet, literary critic, and connoisseur of both the canon and the experimental tradition, epitomizes Wallace Steven’s dictum that “poetry is the scholar’s art.” Her six distinguished volumes of poems include World Enough, chosen Best Poetry Book of the Year by Paul Muldoon in The New Yorker, and her genre-breaking book of criticism and biography My Poets was lauded as “the survey...
Voices of the Diaspora with Charles Gaines, Gala Porras-Kim, & more
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In an afternoon organized by the Asian American Pacific Islander Arts Network, ARTNOIR, and The Here And There Collective, artists, art historians, and curators discuss the ways that their identity shapes their lives and creative practices. Panelists address how artists of various diasporas navigate existing systems and band together for cultural code switching, when excluded from the art marke...
Poet Boris Dralyuk reads from his book "My Hollywood and Other Poems"
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Poet Boris Dralyuk reads from his most recent volume, My Hollywood and Other Poems, a collection of lyric meditations on the experience of émigrés in Los Angeles. The Poetry Foundation proclaimed that “the ache of exile reverberates against the irretrievability of the past” in the Odessa-born poet’s work. Organized and hosted by poet, literary critic, and UCLA Distinguished Research Professor S...
Richard L. Hasen & Erwin Chemerinsky on voter disenfranchisement
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Throughout history, too many Americans have faced needless barriers to voting. Part of the blame falls on the U.S. Constitution, which does not contain an affirmative right to vote. Richard L. Hasen, Director of UCLA Law’s Safeguarding Democracy Project and author of the new book A Real Right to Vote: How a Constitutional Amendment Can Safeguard American Democracy, draws on troubling stories of...
Some Favorite Writers: Joan Silber
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Novelist Joan Silber has written nine books of fiction including Improvement (2017), which won the National Book Critics Circle Award for Fiction and the PEN/Faulkner Award. The New York Times calls her most recent novel, Secrets of Happiness (2021), “humane, elegant and wise.” This reading is followed by discussion with the author and UCLA professor Mona Simpson, who organizes this series. Cop...
Maestro James Conlon discusses work by marginalized composers
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Conductor James Conlon, Music Director of LA Opera and Artistic Director of the Ziering-Conlon Initiative for Recovered Voices, has long championed works by composers whose careers and lives were tragically cut short by the Nazi regime in Europe. On the occasion of the LA Opera’s forthcoming performances of Highway 1, by trailblazing African-American composer William Grant Still, and the semi-a...
Monica Youn reads, January 2024
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Monica Youn’s most recent volume is FROM FROM, a finalist for the 2023 National Book Award. Among her many honors are the Levinson Prize from the Poetry Foundation, the William Carlos Williams Award of the Poetry Society of America, and a Guggenheim Fellowship. An associate professor of English at UC Irvine, she is a former constitutional lawyer, a member of the Racial Imaginary Institute, and ...
Malik Gaines, Alexandro Segade, & Kelci Hahn on "Star Choir"
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Malik Gaines, Alexandro Segade, & Kelci Hahn on "Star Choir"
Greta Lee on "Past Lives"
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Greta Lee on "Past Lives"
Nicole Holofcener & Julia Louis-Dreyfus on "You Hurt My Feelings"
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Nicole Holofcener & Julia Louis-Dreyfus on "You Hurt My Feelings"
Todd Haynes, Samy Burch, & Charles Melton on "May December"
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Todd Haynes, Samy Burch, & Charles Melton on "May December"
Trần Anh Hùng & chef Evan Kleiman on "The Taste of Things"
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Trần Anh Hùng & chef Evan Kleiman on "The Taste of Things"
Costume & prothestics designers Mark Bridges & Kazu Hiro on "Maestro"
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Costume & prothestics designers Mark Bridges & Kazu Hiro on "Maestro"
Costume designer Stacey Battat and producer Youree Henley on "Priscilla"
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Costume designer Stacey Battat and producer Youree Henley on "Priscilla"
Cinematographer Hoyte van Hoytema & Jenelle Riley on "Oppenheimer"
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Cinematographer Hoyte van Hoytema & Jenelle Riley on "Oppenheimer"
Artist Talk: Joey Terrill
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Artist Talk: Joey Terrill
Made in L.A. 2023: Los Angeles Contemporary Archive (LACA)
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Made in L.A. 2023: Los Angeles Contemporary Archive (LACA)
How I Became A Person, by Page Person
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How I Became A Person, by Page Person
Artist talk: Tanya Aguiñiga & AMBOS: Art Made Between Opposite Sides
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Artist talk: Tanya Aguiñiga & AMBOS: Art Made Between Opposite Sides
Sanford Biggers & Dr. Tiffany E. Barber in conversation
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Sanford Biggers & Dr. Tiffany E. Barber in conversation
An Indigenous Present: Indigeneity in Made in L.A. 2023
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An Indigenous Present: Indigeneity in Made in L.A. 2023
Panel discussion: Artists & DJs on techno and house music
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Panel discussion: Artists & DJs on techno and house music

КОМЕНТАРІ

  • @Jacqueline-ru7bx
    @Jacqueline-ru7bx День тому

    Coming from a mix of cultural differences, I completely understand Mercedes. I feel unfortunately that because of that fact acceptance by the living is harder than of spirit. What you are being called to I think is admirable and courageous. AND.....thank you!!❣🌻☀🌙🌟

  • @Jacqueline-ru7bx
    @Jacqueline-ru7bx День тому

    Thank you ladies❣

  • @jeremystanley6815
    @jeremystanley6815 5 днів тому

    TOO CRAZY is the family, brother and sister 🎉.... lies are longer then truth.... 🐦‍⬛

  • @moniquebroadus5896
    @moniquebroadus5896 6 днів тому

    🎉

  • @shareenclarke3965
    @shareenclarke3965 6 днів тому

    Charles Melton is Amazing!

  • @christinaw.4626
    @christinaw.4626 9 днів тому

    Started my day with Stephanie Perry and her guest Ms. Bohemian Soul mentioned "Nomad" and Ms Moody's talents. So I had to find out more. Absolutely beautiful short film on Ms. Moody and her artistic "spirit", so very inspiring!!!!

  • @dogsbees
    @dogsbees 11 днів тому

    What about Mexican Americans compared to white Americans in California

  • @qchirac
    @qchirac 15 днів тому

    We didn't do anything harm to anybody. Why do we have to pay skyrocketing tax for something we didn't commit at all? Hardworking Americans have suffered enough and no more.

  • @SurgeCess
    @SurgeCess 15 днів тому

    I'm so lucky to have found this on DVD, it's a very special film

  • @4pko.youtube
    @4pko.youtube 17 днів тому

    First of all, I acknowledge Naomi Zack’s self identification as mixed race, so excuse my use of the word Black. In response to this discussion of objectification and whether or not the panelists are in an artwork, I think that Zack is justified to raise some concern. I believe that it is normal for Black academics to not only put their cultural perspective in their work, but to also challenge the very framework that they function within. The same goes for Feminist writers, for example. However, in my opinion, I think that the other panelists’ reaction to this is overly defensive of Piper and perhaps defensive of their own part in this objectification. Perhaps they put too much weight on Zack’s critiques. Again, Black academics are justified in making a critique of the organizers of an event when they step on a stage, this is commonplace in my view. Furthermore, either of the White panelists could have done the same if they had the intuition to. Loved this discussion and I too believe it was an artistic choice on Pipers part. Cheers!

  • @As_Sulay
    @As_Sulay 17 днів тому

    7:25 3:14

  • @photomukund
    @photomukund 17 днів тому

    Such a lazy and unprepared intro with a needless MF thrown-in.

  • @ralphadamo1857
    @ralphadamo1857 21 день тому

    Nye doesn't know his rear end from a hole in the ground. He once stuck his head up his own lubed cloacal zone and inhaled the noxious fumes deeply. This partly accounts for the brain damage.

  • @Horace9C
    @Horace9C 23 дні тому

    Sewers

  • @reformationfilms5881
    @reformationfilms5881 24 дні тому

    Stephen Sondheim who came out in 1970 comes to mind.

  • @BZKShagirl
    @BZKShagirl Місяць тому

    I'd like to watch this movie somebody can tell me where ? It seems so interesting ! Quelqu'un peut me dire ou je peux voir ce film qui à l'ai si passionnant.

  • @griffcook97
    @griffcook97 Місяць тому

    Ah the woman who hates Gay Men and is glad many of us died during AIDS. What an icon.

  • @boujeemelon7305
    @boujeemelon7305 Місяць тому

    Awesome! What is the track list?

  • @hugopresser
    @hugopresser Місяць тому

    I've never had anyone who has been able to explain to me what Sarah Lucas' art is about, or why it is any good..

  • @larellj2119
    @larellj2119 Місяць тому

    Reperations without cash is just lip service. All those othet things like medical, apologies return of land is a good start and should be part of the Repetations anyway. Those are side orders to the main dish. Its like getting vegetables and salad and say be happy with this while every other race has meat as well. Bump that we want Steak too

  • @coutnatalia
    @coutnatalia Місяць тому

    ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

  • @sonnyphoto
    @sonnyphoto Місяць тому

    In death, NO ONE gets to choose who he/she wants to worship. Satanists don't get to choose to worship Satan. Satan will be burned in the "lake of fire." Satan will only have time to regret he ever turned his back against GOD, who created him. Satan will not have anyone around him to worship him; this is a lie. All who deny Jesus, the Son of God, will be eternally condemned for denying the Son of GOD as their Lord and Savior. And this is all you will think about is your deep regret for denying Jesus, the Son of GOD. You won't have time to think about worshiping Satan. The worship of Satan in hell is a fairy tale. Once the soul separates from the body, death, GOD has total control of your soul and will be judged by HIM. Again, you don't get to choose what you want to do once you die. GOD has control of your soul. You have been warned.

  • @apricotcomputers3943
    @apricotcomputers3943 Місяць тому

    David is a true patriot ❤🇺🇸⚡

  • @justinmoore5160
    @justinmoore5160 Місяць тому

    White people do not owe any of you reparations. None of you were slaves and not one of us owned a slave the end. It's pretty delusional if you see a white person with nice things. It's because that person worked for it. If you see an Asian person with nice things, it's because that person worked for it. If you want nice things, go out and work for it. Just like everybody else's has had to no reparations for you.

  • @theduce3506
    @theduce3506 Місяць тому

    Excellent!

  • @00nus00
    @00nus00 Місяць тому

    THANK YOU 🙏 fabulous, as sensitive, insights of creative minds - loved it 😻

  • @user-ht1td2fz9h
    @user-ht1td2fz9h Місяць тому

    Therefore, in deciding the R. 60 motion the federal court must apply the weight of bribery as is established by Wis. Const. art. 13 §11, and rightfully find that the sovereign immunity privilege asserted without justification in State law voids the proceeding.

  • @macready84
    @macready84 Місяць тому

    🤢🤮

  • @michaelscott5155
    @michaelscott5155 2 місяці тому

    America owes reparations to the people of Iraq first.

  • @00nus00
    @00nus00 2 місяці тому

    Griffin Dunne for president ❤ brilliant brilliant brilliant movie 🙏 Joan RIP we love you and miss everything about you 🌸💋✨

  • @joshmccollen700
    @joshmccollen700 2 місяці тому

    I'm surprised at the comments in this thread denigrating the lecture. He makes excellent points about "originalism" being a relatively new legal theory and it's ridiculous and cynical application.

    • @x77punk77x
      @x77punk77x Місяць тому

      Originalism was conceived, and (pseudo-)intellectually rationalized and fleshed out to push an extremely retrogressive agenda. It is a fundamentalist right-wing pretext disguised as a legitimate legal methodology.

  • @mattmccullough1093
    @mattmccullough1093 2 місяці тому

    The only states that had slaves should have to pay reparations is the thirteenth confederate states. The fact that the whole country gets blamed for slavery when slavery did not happen in the whole country is racist and ridiculous. None of the union states should have to pay reparations for slavery except for washington dc. Because washington d c is the only union state that was built by slaves besides the 13 confederate states.

  • @KiiKiiMC
    @KiiKiiMC 2 місяці тому

    It’s March 18 2024 Plus it’s only for people over 70 supposedly

  • @mattmccullough1093
    @mattmccullough1093 2 місяці тому

    That's not right. California never had slave's it a union state.

  • @janawall3306
    @janawall3306 2 місяці тому

    Pedo movie

  • @hurryandcatchupquick4000
    @hurryandcatchupquick4000 2 місяці тому

    lively bunch! Sounded like a case of good ol miserable guys racing home to cingeable wives.

  • @chrisbrimhall1613
    @chrisbrimhall1613 2 місяці тому

    Let’s see California is 65 billion in debt….so now they are looking at adding hundreds of millions of more dollars to the debt…..so how will this be paid? ON THE BACK OF TAX PAYERS BACK! Theft

    • @nicke.3782
      @nicke.3782 2 місяці тому

      It's actually 800 BILLION... and you are right. The taxpayers would shoulder the burden.

  • @stevensullivan6475
    @stevensullivan6475 2 місяці тому

    Nothing better than a political activists trying to explain how laws should work.

    • @x77punk77x
      @x77punk77x Місяць тому

      As if Scalia, Alito, Thomas, et al. are not right-wing political activists in robes…

  • @arminiuszmazowszanin2670
    @arminiuszmazowszanin2670 2 місяці тому

    more people are being affected daily by black terrorism than white supremacy.

  • @Friedfish-zm7fx
    @Friedfish-zm7fx 2 місяці тому

    Demanding reparations for long past damages to ancestors (slavery) is stupid and unwise. The statute of limitations has been long expired; slaves and slave owners are long, long dead. There was a limited time after the Civil War to demand legitimately for reparations for freed slaves from slave owners. OK, expropriate the wealth of the former slave owners and transfer said wealth to the freed slaves. History is tragic. The Civil War wiped out utterly the wealth of 99% of the former slave owners and many former slave owners were not land owners. Post-Civil War there was little to distribute to former slaves because nearly all southerners (Black, White) became destitute from the war. Who benefitted (financially, property-wise, wealth-wise) from the Civil War? Answer: the Northerners and they were not slave owners. But, but, but the evil Southern slave owners traded with the Northerners!!! The Northerners need to pay reparations!!! Nope. Said evil Southern slave owners traded also with people of Europe, Asia, South and Central America, even Africa. Should one demand reparations from Europe and Asia? The source of slaves in the Americas was the African Continent. Africans selling off their ethnic siblings to slavery to the Western market (the Americas) and Eastern market (Muslim world) benefitted monetarily from the trade. Go demand reparations from the various African Nations. All African nations will laugh at such demands for reparations. Booker T. Washington (former slave) wrote about former slaves helping out their former owners who fell on hard times. Should said former slaves DEMAND reparations instead of helping the former owners? The slave revenge movies are popular today (2024 AD). A village has been totally destroyed by a tornado. God is guilty of this EVIL!!! Demand reparations from God!!! Such thoughts are idiotic. Someone damaged either your person or your property. You have full rights to demand reparations from the guilty. However, tragically, the guilty is often destitute so what reparations can you get? Are you going to mourn your loss forever and never do anything? A village has been totally destroyed by a tornado. What to do? Wait until God provides reparations? Or would you get up and rebuild the village? A drug-addicted, homeless, penniless, deranged arsonist burned down your house. What to do? Do nothing, do not rebuild the house until the arsonist made FULL Reparations? Question: Should you suffer for the sins of your dead parents? Should you pay off the debts of your dead parents? Generational servitude is sustained by having children obligated for the debts of their parents: this is the history of poverty in 3rd world countries, aka s**th**e countries. There is an asymmetry. I am sure you are very eager to collect what is owed to your dead parents. Even if the debt is owed only to your dead great-great-grand parents. Underlying this eagerness is greed. This asymmetry makes one blind to the other party. You are not the sole party in society. Others (the other party) are also part of society. Question rephrased: Should the other party suffer for the sins of their dead parents? Should the other party pay off the debts of their dead parents? The issue of reparation is often linked to that of justice. What is justice? Justice can defined thus: Justice is the ethical, philosophical idea that people are to be treated impartially, fairly, properly, and reasonably by the law and by arbiters of the law, that laws are to ensure that no harm befalls another, and that, where harm is alleged, a remedial action is taken - both the accuser and the accused receive a morally right consequence merited by their actions. Justice. When you go to court, you do not determine what Justice is. The Judge, the Court, the Jury decide what is Justice for you. You may not be satisfied with the Justice but if you want to stay a citizen in good standing with society, you have to ACCEPT the Judgement. What you are seeking is not so much Justice but Satisfaction. Satisfaction has more in common with Retribution than with Justice. Yes, you can appeal again and again and again and again. You just become a vexatious litigant and your standing in society diminishes. You become a liability, not an asset to society. Think of the Bible as a collection of writings by the Ancients Sages, not so much the Word of God. Deuteronomy 15 : 1 = At the end of every seven years you must cancel debts. Comment: The above verse refers to you who want reparations. If reparations is debt, cancel the debt. What is your valuation of the concept of "statute of limitations"? Deuteronomy 15 : 3 = You may require payment from a foreigner, but you must cancel any debt your brother owes you. Comment: Who is supposed to pay this "reparation"? Which entity is supposed to pay this "reparation"? Do you consider this entity to be a foreigner or a sibling? Deuteronomy 15 :11 = There will always be poor people in the land. Therefore I command you to be openhanded toward your brothers and toward the poor and needy in your land. Comment: The above verse refers to you who want reparations. Instead of demanding "reparations", try to become an asset, not a liability, to your society. The mob's motto: No Justice, no Peace! Much of the violence, turmoil, dystopia in this World is caused by people pursuing JUSTICE!!!, pursuing COSMIC JUSTICE!!! Question: what do you value more: Justice? Peace?

  • @user-qd5pe8yo9w
    @user-qd5pe8yo9w 2 місяці тому

    What about reparations for the Union soldier. Pehaps the children of slaves should visit Arlington Cemetery and count the cost... Perhaps children of slaves sould pay reparations to families of fallen union soldiers that gave their lives for their freedom.

  • @richardcox1422
    @richardcox1422 2 місяці тому

    Paid to people who were never slavers, by people who never owned slaves, in a state never involved in slavery. This is like paying child support to a kid not your own, by a woman you never f#cked, in a place you never lived. This is why California is a WOKE shithole joke.

  • @louisjaugustin8673
    @louisjaugustin8673 2 місяці тому

    Don't know why some of y'all are fighting so hard to get something you were never part of, I think it should be immediate family spouse or parents, maybe grand-parents it ends there!

    • @b.marieglasgow1228
      @b.marieglasgow1228 Місяць тому

      Is that what Massah told you? Look up Estate Law

    • @louisjaugustin8673
      @louisjaugustin8673 Місяць тому

      @@b.marieglasgow1228 I think it's irrelevant can't bring up pass ancestors that had nothing to do with you and anyways the average Blk Americans is like 73%African good day!

  • @consv
    @consv 2 місяці тому

    ua-cam.com/video/57gAjE86FK4/v-deo.html

  • @consv
    @consv 2 місяці тому

    Lazy people with your hands out unite!

    • @b.marieglasgow1228
      @b.marieglasgow1228 Місяць тому

      You need new material. That was what the slaveholders’ overseers said as they brandished their whips.

    • @consv
      @consv Місяць тому

      @@b.marieglasgow1228 Wow...now that's funny!

  • @user-ne4bj6nt8z
    @user-ne4bj6nt8z 2 місяці тому

    Cut the checks 💯

    • @nicke.3782
      @nicke.3782 2 місяці тому

      It will NEVER happen.

  • @bobbytoledo.
    @bobbytoledo. 2 місяці тому

    If you want money, get a job

    • @b.marieglasgow1228
      @b.marieglasgow1228 Місяць тому

      Our most daunting JOB will be to educate all the brutish, ignorant fools who presume to resist JUSTICE

  • @johannjohann6523
    @johannjohann6523 2 місяці тому

    California never participated in slavery, and was not even a state when slavery occurred in America. I hate to say it sounds like alot of people just wanting free money for doing nothing. As for George Floyd, the only people responsible are the ones who were responsible for his murder. Certainly a tragedy, and I hope justice is served and they never see a day outside of prison.

  • @johannjohann6523
    @johannjohann6523 2 місяці тому

    The idea of "reparations" is in itself a bigoted idea. Only rich Democrats in the South owned slaves. So making people today pay for the actions of only rich Democrats in half of the country 150 years ago would be the greatest lie and trick by rich people since the idea of slavery itself.If reparations did occur, they would come out of tax revenue from the gov't. Rich people don't pay taxes, only poor people do.

  • @flashgordon2528
    @flashgordon2528 2 місяці тому

    They want to show improvement